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Q: from Chris
Date: 10-March-2008

Comments: My puppy won't eat as much and lost alot of weight. She is only 7 lbs at 8 weeks old. She has solid stools with no worms and is still very playful. What is the normal weight for a female at 8 weeks?

A: from Marj Brooks, Manorie Dobermans, USA

Hello Chris,

Yes your puppy is underweight or small for a 8 week old female puppy at 7 lbs. Maybe you should feed 4 small meals a day for a while longer. Try to guesstimate the size of her stomach and feed her that amount increasing the amount as she grows. Her stomach should not be extended when she is finished eating. I assume that you are feeding a kibble. Try adding a different suppliant such as hamburger (the fatty kind is best if fed raw) or, yogurt/kefir milk or, a canned food, or a whole egg or what have you in each meal each meal. Feed a good quality kibble too. There are products that you can buy that will enhance her appetite. You can ask at your local feed store/pet shop. Are you in contact with your breeder? Your breeder should be able to guide you. It could be though that your puppy is just a smaller refined Doberman too. If your breeder is not close to you, take a look at our DPCA breeders directory and see if you can find a Doberman person near you that can maybe take a look at your girl. To do this go to www.DPCA.org and scroll to breeder referral and click and pick your state and take a look.

If there is nobody at home during the day you may be able to only feed her 3 times a day which is normal for an 8 week old puppy. Work you schedule to fit in 3 meals a day.

You may, if you haven't done so yet, take her to your veterinarian for a physical too, just to be sure everything is okay.

I hope that she picks up soon and good luck with your new buddy.

A: from Judy Doniere, Toledobes, USA

I would guess that a puppy bitch of 8 wks. would weigh approx. 12-15 lbs. depending on the bone/substance of the pup. It's like a child. Some weigh much more or less than others at the same age but still look in good weight. If her ribs and hip bones are covered, she's in good weight. Try feeding her a diet that has meat and try adding some evaporated milk and egg yoke and honey mixture to her food and see if she eats it. If the Vet says nothing is wrong, she may just be a picky eater.

A: from Holly Schorr, Pennylane Dobermans, USA

An eight week old puppy should weigh around 11 - 14 pounds and be well covered all over the body. First of all I would go to whomever you bought the puppy from and see how the other littermates are doing. Otherwise you need to get the baby to eat well. I add meat to all of my baby foods by cooking hamburger and chicken and mixing it in with the kibble. Perhaps the puppy does not like the kibble you are feeding. I have found most pups like Purina Pro Plan Sensitive Skin and Stomach formula but any good quality kibble will do. Add the hamburger and/or chicken ( I rotate protein sources and even add salmon). Give the pup yogurt or cottage cheese in the food for weight gain. Go back to four small meals and work down to three. I stop the third at about 5 months. Eating is a habit and the more one eats the more one wants to eat - the less eaten then less one wants to eat.


COMMENT: from Lisa Mallory
Date: 9-March-2008

Comments: health

Dear Marj,

Thanks for your informative answer about cardiomyopathy. I guess just facing the fact that if I want a Doberman in my life (and yes, yes, yes, I do) that this is something I must face makes me feel a little better. If I continue to study and become informed I'll be able to make the correct decision. I am going to subscribe to new Doberman Magazine and attempt to get the article you mentioned. Thanks again.
 


Q: Pallab Paul
Date: 7-March-2008

Comments: Health

Hello Ma'am,

I am from India. And the major problem over here is that the beef that we find over here are not properly examined before selling. I have tried feeding beef to my Doberman. But twice I have found her getting infected by hook worms. So now I give her a daily feed of 500gms of dog food mixed with fresh chicken (around 400gms). I also add some fresh vegetables and rice to it. This food is divided in two parts. Is this quantity enough for an adult Doberman. She is a little hyperactive and I give her moderate exercise. Should I add anything else which will help in gaining her weight? Please suggest.

A: from Marj Brooks, Manorie Dobermans, USA

Hello Paul,

Are you sure that the beef is how your girl is getting infected with hookworm?

I need to look up your grams to our cups. One cup is 250 mls. How much is 500 grams? Here I would try feeding her 11/2 to 2 cups of a high quality kibble per meal soaked and mixed with the chicken (which is okay) and finely
chopped vegetables or cooked vegetables and brown rice well cooked. I would try a cup of that so that you are feeding 21/2 to 3 cups of the mixed up well food all together for one meal. I already suggested that you feed 2
times a day about 12 hours apart.

You can feed digestive enzymes like I suggested before to help with the assimilating the food into her system.

I also suggest giving it time, say at least a month to see slight weight gain. This does take time.

Hopefully we can get on the same page as to the amounts with you and your grams and me with my cups. To help you further I need to get a hold of some conversion tables.

Hopefully this will help for now.

A: from Holly Schorr, Pennylane Dobermans, USA

The diet you are feeding should deliver adequate nutrients for your dog. I am not sure of the conversion in amounts, however feeding twice a day is the usual accepted schedule for most American dogs. You can know if you are feeding the correct amount and a balanced diet by looking at your dog - she should have a cover over her ribs
and hip bones so that you do not see them, but should not have "rolls" over her hips when standing or rolls behind her ribs when sitting. Her coat should be shiny, slightly coarse and not thin, without an over amount of shedding. I can and do vary the amount I feed each of my dogs daily depending on how they look. I also run a complete blood panel on my dogs once a year to check that all systems are normal.

Hope this information helps.


Q: from Lynn Morgan
Date: 7-March-2008

I am preparing to purchase a new Doberman puppy and am researching showing for conformation (I currently know very little). I live in Southern Indiana, and don't see extensive travel in my future. MY QUESTION: I am wondering if I can expect to have a Dobe with natural ears do well in the conformation ring. I am willing to crop, but I like the natural look, too. If it's going to be the difference in finishing the dog or not, I'll opt for cropping. Thank you.

A: from Marj Brooks, Manorie Dobermans, USA

Hello Lynn,

So far and to date there have only been two Doberman Pinschers in the USA that have completed their championship with uncropped ears.

Our standard clearly states about the ears: Ears normally cropped and carried erect. The upper attachment of the ear, when held erect, is on a level with the top of the skull.

With uncropped ears, the judge could consider this a deviation to be judged to the extent of the deviation in the ears are not cropped and they probably will not be carried erect. If you are okay with having a cropped Doberman, I
would recommend this procedure for showing.

This my opinion and the choice is yours to make.

Thank you.

A: from Holly Schorr, Pennylane Dobermans, USA

The Doberman Pinscher breed ring is thought of as the hardest ring in which to "finish" a dog. True or not, it is difficult and also expensive to achieve a Championship today. One should have the best dog possible and It is hard for a seasoned professional handler or top owner/handler to finish a natural eared Doberman. Our standard clearly states that the ears shall be cropped and held erect and that is what the judges look at. There are some judges who will put up a dog with natural ears, and a few have finished in the States, but only a few. You are much better starting with a cropped animal - just my opinion.

Good luck - it is a wonderful and fun sport.


Q: from Shane
Date 6-March-2008

My 11 week old Doberman has a cowlick on the back her neck. Is this normal for Dobermans? Thanks for your time.

A: from Holly Schorr, Pennylane Dobermans, USA

Yes, it is common in Dobermans and readily accepted in the United States. There are countries outside the US that disqualify a dog with a cowlick.

Personally, I love them and think they are "good luck".

A: from Marj Brooks, Manorie Dobermans, USA

Hello Shane,

A cowlick down the neck of a Doberman is fairly common. Cowlicks are acceptable in the Americas.
 


Q: from Pallab Paul
Date 6-March-2008

Comments: Health

One of my Doberman females, aged 26 months, is having a weight around 30kg. Though her height and weight seems to be alright she always looks very skinny. I tried everything but failed to regain volume in her body. I am a bit puzzled by the variation of suggestions from different people. As a novice I don't want to do too much experiment with my dog. Is there anything to do with the bloodline in this case. Is there any specific exercise or feeding guide which can help her gain some volume. She is a local champion but with little volume in her can take her a long way. Please help.

A: from Marj Brooks, Manorie Dobermans, USA

Hello,

You an try feeding her three times a day with less food per meal that I suggested for the two meals. The satin balls are very good for what you are trying to do. I don't see why that you can't make them with the ground chicken or ground turkey rather than the beef. I forgot about India and the beef.

Just be patient and don't expect to see results really fast.

A: from Holly Schorr, Pennylane Dobermans, USA

Some dogs, like some humans, are proned to being thinner. However, I have found that rotating one's protein source can largely affect the weight and overall condition of an animal. Some dogs stay in better condition and weight with an all or mostly protein diet while others thrive on large amounts of carbohydrates - this is true of humans
also. If you can rotate protein with chicken, lamb , beef and mix with vegtables and perhaps rice or pasta this should put weight on your dog. I have also had success with feeding oatmeal to dogs who are recouperating from surgery or need to add weight. They love it with a bit of butter and sugar and it is good for their digestion.
Yogurt is also very good. Feeding four smaller meals will increase the appetite as the more one eats the more one wants to eat and the less eaten the less one wants to eat.

You might also want to check they dog's thyroid as overactive thyroid can cause the animal to be thin. I am sure you have checked for parasites but most vets do not check for tapeworm - you might run that test.

A: from Marj Brooks, Manorie Dobermans, USA

Hello Paul,

Can you tell us what you are feeding her now? I am afraid that if you ask 10 people what to feed your girl to have her gain weight, you will probably get 10 different answers. Have you tried feeding a digestive enzyme to help her
assimilate her food. Are you feeding her fresh beef? Have you had her checked for parasites?

Are you feeding her enough and are you feeding her twice a day at least 12 hours apart? Maybe controlling her exercise will help. Is she hyperactive?

You can experiment with the amounts of food that you feed and you can also safely add ingredients to her food to help her gain weight. You just need to be sure that you are feeding her a balanced diet. There is a recipe in our articles section for satin balls that should help with weight gain. How about giving this a try. http://www.dpca.org/BreedEd/satin_balls.html

Please look for more articles about feeding on our website.

You will have to do whatever you do for a few weeks most likely before you notice a difference. It takes a while for the diet to "catch" and once it does you will notice weight gain quite rapidly.

You may want to cut back off some, not all, of the exercise until you notice a weight gain. Take it slow and easy. You want to keep her fit.

If you want to share with us what exactly you are feeding her, maybe we can help further.

Thank you and good luck.
 


Q: from Lisa Mallory
Date: 5-March-2008

Comments: Health

First of all, let me thank you for all the wealth of information on the DPCA website. My husband and I have owned 5 rescue Dobermans over the past 20 years. All but our current male, who is now 11 ½ yrs. old, have died from cardiomyopathy. We chose those dogs because they needed a good loving home, without regard for their health. In the near future we will be looking for a new puppy. We've decided that we want to buy a pup that we can show in the breed ring, as well as do some competitive obedience/rally/agility with. I've begun researching any information I can get my hands on about dilated cardiomyopathy in the Doberman Pinscher, and am now very concerned about finding a pup who will grow into a healthy long-lived dog. I want to make an informed and educated decision when purchasing a pup from a breeder (we will definitely buy from a DPCA member on your breeder referral list), because a new puppy is a significant investment in time, money and love.

What specific questions would you recommend asking a breeder about their health testing protocols for cardiomyopathy? I have seen some dogs advertised in the Doberman Digest and breeder websites as having health testing related to cardiomyopathy (i.e. cardiac ultrasound and ECG). But what if I purchase a pup by, or out of, a young/middle aged dog or bitch and that animal develops cardio later in life? From what I've read a Doberman should have heart testing yearly to detect problems that typically develop as the dog hits middle age or older. I'm really concerned about how to make the correct choice in a breeder who values correct structure and soundness, along with health. I realize the Doberman has other health issues beside cardiomyopathy, however I feel much more confident about dealing with issues related to hips, elbows, eyes, thyroid, etc. Any advice you can give me would be greatly appreciated. As well as any guidance as to where I might find more info on cardio (I've read everything I can find on the DPCA website). Thank you so much.

A: from Marj Brooks, Manorie Dobermans, USA

Hello Lisa,

I will try to answer your concerns in the way that I do as the puppy referral person for my area.

Cardiomyopathy is a problem with our breed. We all share your concerns. First of all you should interview the breeder as the breeder should interview you. In the interview you need to ask if the parents are tested for all of the inherent diseases that plague the Doberman which include at recent 24 Holter monitor test and a echocardiogram by a certified cardiologist veterinarian. The other tests that must be done is a DNA test for vWD (von Willebrands disease) and full thyroid panel, the hips and the elbows x-rayed and a C.E.R.F. eye test. In doing these test we can make informed breeding decisions about health and not breed 2 effected dogs together.

Just come right out and ask these questions about all of the testing. All of us who do this testing are as concerned as you are about breeding a healthy Doberman. We have documentation. I just got the results back on my 4+ year old female from her 24 hour holter test. I will be doing her echocardiogram next.

I see that you have been reading and learning all that you can about the disease and you have noticed the protocol of testing (holter and echo) each year. By now too, many of us have at least 3 generations and some of us even more that have been tested. I am guessing too that you have learned the mode of inheritance with cardiomyopathy that is believed to be for Dobermans and that is it is autosomal dominant mode of inheritance. Even with that we know that our chances of finding a cardio free 3 generation pedigree where the individuals or their siblings are free of the disease would be not possible. There is no bloodline in the Doberman Pinscher that is free of cardiomyopathy that I know of. I don't mean this to be the voice of doom. As you there are many studies being done to gain more and more information about the disease. We have learned so much more about cardiomyopathy in the last few years. We have learned of symptoms and with the testing we can pick up warning signs and hopefully when we do, we choose not to breed that dog.

You have probably read these two articles but if you haven't they can help you with the history of our heart problems in the breed.
http://www.dpca.org/BreedEd/illena7sires.htm
http://www.dpca.org/BreedEd/bottles_neck.htm

We have a new Doberman Pinscher magazine that in the last issue has great and in-depth articles about cardiomyopathy by Rod Humphries. Mr. Humphries shares his experiences in his breeding program. He has done a lot of
research himself and has studied the history and he shares all of this with us.

You can get this magazine by writing The Doberman Pinscher Magazine (formally The Doberman Ring) 4143 Milton Shopiere Road, Milton WI. 53563 or email Mike at mike@dobermanpinschermagazine.com or call him at 608-868-1130
to get this issue (Vol. 1 issue 5, Feb. 2008).

I myself have decided that I always want a Doberman in my life.

I hope that this has helped you and if not please ask more questions.
 


Q: from Angela
Date: 4-Mar-2008

Comments: Feeding

I wanted to get your opinion on using elevated dog bowls. I have heard mixed opinions.

Thanks!

A: from Holly Schorr

This is a subject that has long been debated. I have talked to many professionals, both veterinary and canine, and some feel strongly one way and others stand strong on their position. Personally, I have fed my dogs both ways and cannot honestly say I see a difference. I have had dogs that "preferred" one way or the other, but could not see any benefit or lack of either way. Originally I believe this was started as a way to get less air into the belly to prevent bloat. My dogs inhale their food no matter where it is located so up or down never really affected them.

I believe one can manage bloat by simple feeding the dog in a confined area and not allowing them to move, AT ALL, for at least an hour and a half. I have done this for over 25 years and am happy to say I have not dealt with bloat.

Wish I could give you more definitive information but, as I said, there are two trains of thought on the matter.

A: from Marj Brooks, Manorie Dobermans, USA

Hello Angela,

I personally do not feed my dogs from elevated bowls to eat. I have always fed them on the floor/ground. Like you say there are people that highly believe in doing this. I have never had any of the problems that people can say happens when you feed your dog in a bowl on the floor or ground. Dogs and cats too are naturally built to be able to lower their heads to eat off of the ground. The shoulder blades are spaced so that the dog can lower his/her head down to eat.

I hope that this helps you.
 


Q: from Pallab Paul
Date: 3-Mar-2008

Comments: Rearing Doberman pups

Please explain in details the rearing of the pups from day one till two months.

A: from Marj Brooks, Manorie Dobermans, USA

Hello Paul,
I would love it if you would please refer to our articles pages for this information. There are whole books written on the subject.

I highly recommend doing what I call the Early Neurological Stimulation exercises starting at day 3 through day 16. Here is an article about these important exercises. http://www.dpca.org/BreedEd/battneurostimulation.htm
Then click here for an article about the history and why these exercises are so valuable.
http://www.dpca.org/BreedEd/battagliahiachievers.htm

We have another article, The Rules of Sevens that also is something that I can recommend. Click here for this article. http://www.dpca.org/BreedEd/ruleof7.htm 

This article too is an excellent guideline. http://www.dpca.org/BreedEd/superpuppy.htm

Now you probably want to know about weaning, feeding and all of the other rearing that is done and we have articles about that too.
http://www.dpca.org/BreedEd/puppyadvice.htm
http://www.dpca.org/BreedEd/educate_pups.htm
http://www.dpca.org/BreedEd/happy_healthy_confident_puppy.htm
http://www.dpca.org/BreedEd/raising_a_puppy.htm

These are a are a few that I can locate quickly. Please scan our pages for other articles that may help you. You can print these articles to have handy for references as you go. Like I said, there are many books written on the subject of raising puppies from day one to 2 months.

I am raising a litter right now and I just finished setting up a play yard for them with tunnels and ramps and things for them to learn to climb and walk on such as the A-frame and the objects that are on the agility course.

The dam and I teach the puppies to navigate these things. I also have several different types of toys for them. You will be amazed at how natural that they are to learn to do these things and how much they like it too. They were walking through the tunnel within a few minutes. Mom walked through and I said "tunnel" and they walked right through after mom as if they had been doing from day one. These sorts of exercise are called neuro linguistics and when they are doing these things they are exercising the left and the right sides of their brains sort of speak.

You didn't ask about the whelping and information about dealing with the dam (mother) of the puppies during her pregnancy but we have several articles with that information as well.

Rearing the puppies from day 1 to 2 months is easily an 18 hour a day job! If you have specific questions after reading all of these articles please don't hastate to ask. There is a lot to this commitment.

I hope that this is a good start in helping you.

When are the puppies due?

Thank you and good luck.

A: from Judy Doniere, Toledobes, USA

Please go to the article menu to check out the many subjects we have there. It would take me too long to go
into detail. That is something your Breeder should have done the day you picked up your puppy. If they didn't do that, shame on them. You should have gone to the DPCA site earlier to find a reputable breeder who would have done that for you and all the new owners of their puppies.
 


Q: from Angela
Date: 28-Feb-08


Comments: Health

My 8 month old has had soft stool to diarrhea since about the beginning of December. She had a case of round worm and Giardia, which she was treated for.

I am feeding her Innova Large Breed Puppy food 2 times a day. Each time she gets 2 cups of moistened food.

I am wondering if this is something that might be normal? Her stool seems to change daily so I am not sure what is going on. I am planning on taking a stool sample to our vet this weekend, but I wanted to see what you all have to say about this. Any suggestions would be great.

Thanks so much for all your help! This site has been a real help!

A: from Judy Doniere, Toledobes, USA

It sounds like the Giardia might not have been treated long enough or it's possible she has Coccidia which is also very difficult to find. You may have to take several stool samples to find it. Once the Vet has decided what the problem is, and nothing chances, the dog food might just be too rich for her.
 


Q: from Anna Miranda
Date: 25 Feb, 2008
Comments: family

Are Dobermans really good for family pets with children and other animals (cat and small dog)? I know someone who had a Doberman that they said was real nice and when he was talking to his neighbor's daughter, that the dog was fine for one second and then turned on the girl for no reason, is that common of the breed?

A: from Judy Doniere, Toledobes, USA

I know of some guy that attacked a child so do you think all men should be banned by society?

A: from Marj Brooks, Manorie Dobermans, USA

Hello Anna,

No this behavior is not common for the Doberman Pinscher. What you have heard is very unfortunate and I hope that it was just a story and not true. With that said, there are really "no bad dogs". Dog ownership is a responsibility. It is important that the dog is part of the family and he has his place in the order. It is important for the dog to have a leader. That is our job to ensure this if we are going to have pets in our homes.

When you read in the newspaper or hear on the news about a dog that attacks and hurts a human being, it is almost always because of an irresponsible owner or keeper of that dog. Often, this person faces charges for their irresponsibility. Dogs should not be allowed to be off leash for example in the neighborhood.

I would like to invite you just for starters to watch the show about dog responsible ownership on the National Geographic channel which I believe airs on Friday nights and often on the weekends. It is called The dog Whisperer. It is a show about dogs that are "acting out" in their homes and the owners are seeking the help of Caesar Milan. Mr. Milan, talks about you and me being "the leader of the pack" and about assertiveness, training, exercise and a lot of things that contribute to responsible caring and managing of your dog to be a good citizen, sort of speak.

There are articles on out pages too to help you raise and train the best dog that you will ever have.

A person could write a book about your question. I hope that this little bit from us can help you.

No not all Dobermans are like this and the breed never was. There are some history articles on our pages that can show you why the Doberman was bred and developed in the first place. They were bred to serve man in all kinds of endeavors and most importantly to be a obedient and loyal companion.

Additionally, the Doberman Pinscher is not a dog for everyone and actually not everyone is a good home for any dog. Having dogs takes great responsibility just like having children.

I hope that we have been helpful with your sensitive question.
 


Q: from Kimi
Date: 18-Feb-08

Comments: health

I own a 21/2 month old Dobe name Pluto. He is a very active and energetic Dobe but he is very underweight. Now he is only 5.1 kg. I afraid he won't grow into proper appearance like other Dobes. He only able to eat 2 cups of dog biscuits a day (means 2 meals a day). The rest of the biscuits he will leave aside. Now i can see Pluto's ribs so obviously.

He still very playful and naughty. I've changed a lot of biscuits brands for him but he still doesn't like to eat. I once brought to a boarding kennel at the vets and he gained weight After I brought him home he lost his weight again. I don't know what happened to him.

A: from Marj Brooks, Manorie Dobermans, USA

Hello Kimi,

I am thinking that you need to be feeding your puppy 4 smaller meals a day and in a few weeks, say by week 14 to 16 you can go down to feeding Pluto 3 times a day.

I have always advised to estimate the size of his stomach and feed that amount. I am guessing from 3/4 cup to 1 cup of food total per meal. If he doesn't finish what you give to him per meal, cut it back to the amount or up it to the amount that he can eat without extending his stomach out of proportion.

Also, you may want to ask your vet what he is/was doing and what he is/was feeding him to have him gain the weight.

You also need to make sure that he gets plenty of nap time. Puppies grow while they are sleeping.

We have an article on our pages that may help you. This is a guideline.
http://www.dpca.org/BreedEd/happy_healthy_confident_puppy.htm

There are other so please scan through our articles pages for more information.

Thank you and I sure hope that this helps you and Pluto.

A: from Judy Doniere, Toledobes, USA

It is difficult to know what the weight should be on any puppy but he should never have his ribs showing. Have you tried to mix come Canned meat and add some warm water enough to moisten and mix all together? You might try putting the puppy in a crate (cage for dogs) with his bowl of food and walk out of the room and hopefully he'll eat it all. Only leave him for 15 minutes with his food and take it away from him. Call the Vet's office
and find out what they fed him might also work. I'd get in touch with his breeder and find out what they might suggest.

Another suggestion is to take him to the Vet to make sure he's healthy and what they would suggest.

A: from Holly Schorr, Pennylane Dobermans, USA

Some young males are problem eaters but this does sound like an extreme case. I would definitely have him checked for parasites, including tapeworm, and have his thyroid checked. Overactive thyroid can cause this condition and the "excess energy". If he is fine on those counts then I would try adding cooked meat to his food (chopped
meat and chicken) and cooked pasta or rice. Even the rice or pasta and chicken broth should get him to eat. Eating is a vicious circle - the more you eat the more you want, the less you eat the less you want. Worth a try.


Q: from Steve
Date: 17-Feb-08

Comments: ear cropping

How old is too old for ear cropping?

A: from Judy Doniere, Toledobes, USA

I would never crop a puppy after 12 wks. even if you could find a good Vet who would crop at that age. Most breeders crop between 7 & 9 wks. Any older than that is very hard on the puppy as well as difficult getting the ears to ever stand. Most Vets would crop ears very short on an older puppy because they know how hard it is to get ears standing as they are very heavy at an older age.

A: from Holly Schorr, Pennylane Dobermans, USA

There is a vet in Las Vegas who does most of the ear cropping in this area. He is very talented, and he will crop a puppy up to 12 weeks. He does not like to do this but has done several that I have seen that came out very well and the puppies did fine. Ear cropping is an art and certain precautions need to be taken at any age over 9 weeks, so the vet doing the procedure is very important. Personally, I do not think I would do ears past 11 weeks as a rule. However, I did do ears at 12 weeks on a very small puppy I had years ago - we waited until he was the right weight. If the pup is large then I would suggest leaving the ears alone.
 


Q: from Terri Quinlan
Date: 15-Feb-2008

I just sent an email about Jake. I hope I senmt it right asking about how to tape his ears nd about the white under his chin as well as if at 4, almost 5 months of age, is 18 pounds too small.

A: from Judy Doniere, Toledobes, USA

Teri,

First of all, your puppy does not look pure bred. Do you have AKC papers for it to be registered? If so, I'd have a DNA done by AKC to make sure. It looks very odd to me that it has something else mixed in and not a purebred Doberman.

A: from Darlene Young, Darwin Dobermans, USA

From the photo you sent I would believe Jake is not a purebred Doberman. If that is the case, he may be smaller than the average sized Doberman. You can find a lot of ear taping methods on our website where you posted this question. There are a lot of articles posted that show different methods for wrapping ears. Good Luck.

A: from Judy Bohnert, Equinox Dobermans, Canada

He is probably not a purebred. Check out my our Article Menu for ways to tape ears.
 


Q: from 1mrc
Date: 9-Feb-08

Comments: gagging, choking

7 yr old gags and chokes after eating or over exited or laying in bed. What is causing this? No vomiting or being sick induces this.

A: from Marj Brooks, Manorie Dobermans, USA

Hello,

This sounds like a question that you should see your veterinarian about. This could be any number of things. I hope that your vet can give you some answers soon.

A: from Darlene Young, Darwin Dobermans, USA

I agree with Judy Doniere. This is what my 10 year old was doing just before she succumbed to sudden death. We knew she had Cardio and had been on medication but this was a sign of arrhythmia.

A: from Judy Doniere, Darwin Dobermans, USA

Please have your dog's heart tested. This can sometimes be a sign of heart problems. First would be an Echo and then a 24 hr. holter test. X-rays of the chest are also important. A dog that gags, unless he has some food stuck in his windpipe is subject to other major problems. I'd test him a.s.a.p. by a board certified Cardiologist.
 


Q: from Angela
Date: 9-Feb-08

Comments: Temperament

I have a 7 month old bitch and I am taking her to conformation class right now. However, her temperament in class is totally different than when she is at home. When she is in class, she holds her head down and seems very unsure of what is going on. We have been going to this class for awhile so I am not sure why she is still acting this way. Also, when we are at home she walks around with all the confidence in the world and never holds her head down. I live in California and the weather has not been the greatest and she had a case of giardia recently so I have not been able to take her on walks too much. I am not sure if walking her more will help her confidence. Can you please suggest something that I can do to help her build her confidence?

Thanks!

A: from Marj Brooks, Manorie Dobermans, USA

Hello Angela,

I would just keep taking her to the conformation class. Share with with your instructor the problems that you are having and that you would like to concentrate on giving your puppy more confidence. Find somebody in the class that maybe has more experience and see if you and that person or person and your dogs can meet and do thing together
with the dogs. Continue to take your puppy on walks and encourage him/her to go to investigate things and objects.
Say you happen up to an object and your dog freezes and stares at it. Say your dog raises it's hackles too (show fear-making itself bigger) stand behind your dog and stroke the hair down and in a firm strong tone. If you stand behind the dog pet the hair down and stroke the tail up and petting the back the back and side all the time in a strong confident tone of voice encouraging your dog to "watch it" helps build confidence.

Always keep your dog ahead of you. Keeping the dog ahead of you is giving him/her confidence. Also "tail up" is a confident tail position in dog language. Try to work the dog forward closer and closer to the object to where you can touch the object, pet it (touch it) and verbalize as if you are talking to the object. Often times when you do this your dog will tentatively approach the object. Encourage this and praise your dog and move on to the next thing that you happen to on in the walk.

She is acting this way at class and in unfamiliar places because she is telling you that she is unsure. There is a article on our pages that can help you learn what different head, body and tail positions mean in dog language.
http://www.dpca.org/BreedEd/SPEAKINGDOGGISH.htm 
Another important article to read is:
http://www.dpca.org/BreedEd/superpuppy.htm

There are a number of other articles on our pages about temperament that you may want to read.

Also in the conformation section, look through the articles by Michelle Santana to fine something about building confidence.

Just scan the articles pages for more.

I hope that this is a start to help you with your puppy.

Thank you.

A: from Darlene Young, Darwin Dobermans, USA

Angela:

It sounds as though she needs more socialization around other dogs and people. Keep going to the class and make it lots of fun for her. Play with her in class, use a toy or food or whatever will cause here to focus and have fun. Getting her out alot is very helpful towards her socialization, you can take her to a busy place like the outside of a mall or if you have a downtown street you can walk her where there are people.

Q: from Bonnie
Date 8-Feb-08

Comments: Showing

Are there any dog shows (conformation) for the beginner? How would I go about finding those. Or would I have to enter into a dog show with much more experienced owner/handlers? I currently show horses (and have for years) and there are Rated and non-rated shows. A 'C Rated' show would be a smaller local show - usually with only year end points, but no National points. 'A Rated' shows would be the breed shows or shows that give you National points.
Are dog shows similar or different?

Thank you!!

A: from Judy Doniere, Toledobes, USA

Bonnie,

There are what we call Puppy Matches. Many Kennel clubs put these on from time to time. They are judged by non professional judges and they are very similar to regular dog shows but some things are different. Usually at
the Matches you don't have to pre enter several weeks ahead of time, you enter the day of the match. Call your local kennel club or your local Doberman club and they can tell you. Get yourself a mentor in Dobermans and they
will help you a lot.

A: from Darlene Young, Darwin Dobermans, USA

Bonnie:

I would suggest that go to www.akc.org and go to the events page. There will find show schedules and you can locate shows in your area. Another site is www.infodog.com and they too have a list of shows. Also on the AKC website you can go their on line store and find publications available from them that explain dogs shows and all the rules, etc.

A: from Marj Brooks, Manorie Dobermans, USA

Hello Bonnie,

Yes there are such shows. Depending on what part of the country you are from, they are called "match shows", "fun matches" "puppy matches" and names like this. I don't know all of them. These are "mock" dog shows whereas you can exhibit your dog within it's breed to a judge for fun and training for both you and your dog. These matches also usually have groups and Best in Show judging.

You can find out about these types of events from the superintendents ( www.AKC.org ) for the shows in your area or the kennels clubs, word of mouth, training classes and etcetera. Often times a kennel club will have one of these types of matches in conjunction of their regular dog show often in the evening of the regular show or the evening before. None of these types of shows will offer AKC championship points like at a regular AKC dog show.

Another thing that you can do in many areas is to go to what is called a conformation class where you can go to train your dog for the ring. These classes will set up a "Mock" setting like the dogs show and will have people go over your dog like a judge would at the show. There are often several breeds of dogs at this type of class and all are there for the same reason that you are. The instructors will keep the class orderly and the dogs orderly. Often time, the instructors will teach you too how to handle your dog as well or give tips as they see that they are needed . To find this sort of a class, you can usually contact your local kennel club and/or an obedience club.

You can also contact breeders in your area to find out if there is such a class in the area. These classes are usually once a week where you all meet.

Another thing that you can look for, and these shows are a lot of fun and are AKC shows too, are International Kennel Club shows. At these your dog is judges as an individual and against the standard of it's breed. While more than one entry can get a leg towards it's international championship there is only one Best Of Breed winner that
goes onto the group. Often they will have 4 dogs in a weekend, like 2 a day. At these shows the judges talk with and/or give to a written critique of your entry (dog). I imagine that you can google International Kennel Club and learn more about these shows.

What is nice is that if your dog scores well, he/she can get their International Championship on the weekend. Your dogs needs 3 legs from 3 different judges to become a International Champion. Your handling skills are not as important as you have witnessed at the shows that you have attended to date. Again these shows are not AKC shows nor does a win at these shows qualify your dog for an AKC championship.

I hope that I have answered your question and that I have given you some leads on how to find these shows and classes.

Good question.

Thank you.
 


Q: from Joe
Date: 4-Feb-08

Comments: Ear Cropping

I have a Doberman who is 10 weeks old, I've read different things, but am wondering how old can he be when I crop his ears, and how can I find someone to crop his ears in maybe the Sacramento area? I live in Fairfield, and if there were any here, that would be better.

A: from Marj Brooks, Manorie Dobermans, USA

Hello Joe,
I know of two veterinarians in the Sacramento area who crop ears. One is Dr. Jean Metzler at the Orangevale Vet Hospital at 916-987-2055.

The other is the Loomis Basin Veterinary Hospital or Pet Clinic (?) and I don't remember the particular veterinarian's name but they do crop ears at the facility. I also don't have the phone number but I am sure that you can find it in your phone book.

Please remember that you will have to tape the ears for quite a few weeks to have them standing straight up at 12 o'clock. We do have very good taping articles on our pages that can help you:

http://www.dpca.org/BreedEd/ears1.htm Number 11, 12 and 13 (the last 3) are illustrated .

Here is another illustrated one http://www.dpca.org/BreedEd/PDF/Auch_Ear_Taping.pdf

The veterinarian's that crop the ears can help too.

Enjoy your new buddy.
 


Q: from Paul A. Williams Sr.
Date:30-Jan-08

Comments:

Hello

I have a 1 1/2 year old male. I would like to breed him What is the average cost for breeding?

Thank you for your time.

A:
from Marj Brooks, Manorie Dobermans, USA

Hello Paul,

At this point in time Paul and before that you breed your male dog, he needs to go through all of the health testing that needs to be done to base breeding decisions on health. He MUST have his hips x-rayed and the films sent to OFA for evaluation and to determine that he does not have hip dysplasia. This cannot be done until he is 2 years old unless you do the Penn-Hip x-raying. You can ask your veterinarian about all of this. He must also have a DNA test for von Willebrands Disease to determine whether he is a clear, carrier or an effected dog. He should have a complete thyroid panel done, two heart tests which include a 24 hour holter monitor test and an echocardiogram. Last but not least, he should have his eyes tested with the C.E.R.F. eye test.

All breeding stock must be tested for all of the diseases that plague the Doberman Pinscher so that sound breeding decisions are made based on the health of our breed at the time of the mating. Of course the female that comes to your dog must be tested too.

To answer your question about the cost. Usually the stud fee is the price of a puppy.

I hope that this helps you. If you have any more questions about breeding your Doberman don't hesitate to ask.
We do have articles about breeding your male dog on our pages too.

Thank you.

A: from Darlene Young, Darwin Dobermans, USA

There are a lot of costs associated with breeding. You must first test your male for all the genetic diseases and these tests could add up to over $600.00. You should have his heart checked out by an ultrasound and a holter test by a cardiologist. You also will need to have a vWD DNA test done. Thyroid should be checked and a brucella test should be done as well. It is not recommended to breed any Dobermans without these tests having been completed and the dog ios clear of most if not all.
 


Q: from Lil Ray
Date: 28-Jan-08

Comments: Choosing A Breeder

The breeder has been incommunicado since we bought her. I emailed him and asked him what she had been eating, and he never responded. I don't think he is sleazy, but I also don't think he is very interested in keeping in touch. I really don't think she is 23 or 24 inches, she's more like 21 or 22. I'll try to weigh her and get back to y'all. Thanks for your response. The vet (when I took her to be spayed) said her teeth looked the way that they should at that age. It was the people who worked there who thought she was small, and I figure they get to see a bunch of dogs of every breed all the time.

A: from Marj Brooks, Manorie Dobermans, USA

Hello Lil Ray,

Try giving your breeder a call and ask your questions. It is his job as a reputable breeder to be there for you and your puppy 100%. So try again and give him a chance to help you.

A: from Judy Doniere, Toledobes, USA

Well, some Dobes just get a slow start and then they may have a growth spurt later on. You were going to spay her so I assume she is just going to be your pet and not for breeding nor showing in conformation so I surely wouldn't worry about her size. She may not be much bigger but if she is healthy and loving, so what?


Q: from Lauren
Date: 28-Jan-08

Comments: spaying

At what age is considered good to have a puppy spayed? My pup will be 4 months old Feb. 14th and she is scheduled to be spayed that day. The vet said 4 months was a good age but I keep reading about waiting until their older. I do not want her to go into heat at all. Should I wait a couple more months or go ahead and have it done?

A: from Marj Brooks, Manorie Dobermans, USA

Hello Lauren,

Although we are not supposed to answer this kind of a question, I would like to refer you to this article that is on our article page, http://www.dpca.org/BreedEd/early-spay-neuter.html.

I personally recommend that for a Doberman to wait even longer for the reasons that are mentioned in the article. The growth plates for the Doberman start closing at about 14 months of age give or take.

I believe for a Doberman and most large breeds of dogs, 4 months of age is not a good age to spay your girl.

Please read the article and then base your decision on what you learn and also ask your veterinarian this question.

Maybe your breeder can tell you the average age that her/his Dobermans come into heat for their first time too.

A: from Darlene Young, Darwin Dobermans, USA

Lauren:

We can not make any medical recommendations from this site, however, 4 months is not a bad age to spay.

Q: from Gael Skolnick
Date: 28-Jan-08

Comments: Other

My friend lives in Girard Ohio and has a 3 month old female with cropped ears that needs taping desperately...do you know anyone in the area who can do this taping. Thanks.

A: from Marj Brooks, Manorie Dobermans, USA

Hello Gael,

You have a couple of options here. One you can hopefully contact your breeders for someone to help you. You can or should be able to go to the veterinarian that cropped the ears for help. You can go to www.DPCA.org and click onto breeder referral and then the state of Ohio and hopefully find a breeder listed near you that can help.

We also have several articles on our pages for for ear taping methods. There are 13 methods in this one:
http://www.dpca.org/BreedEd/ears1.htm  I like #11 and #12 and #13 which are illustrated.

Here is another illustrated article about taping ears:
http://www.dpca.org/BreedEd/PDF/Auch_Ear_Taping.pdf

There are a lot of DPCA members that are breeders in the state of Ohio. Good luck.

A: from Judy Doniere, Toledobes, USA

I'm from Ohio but don't know where Girard Oh. is. Can you tell me what bigger town it's near?

A: from Darlene Young, Darwin Dobermans, USA

Gael:

You or your friend can go to www.dpca.org and locate a breeder in the area that may be able to recommend someone that can help with the ears.
 


Q: from Lil Ray
Date: 27-Jan-08

Comments: Is my puppy small?

Our red Doberman puppy Emma is now 6 months old (born 7/19/07) and when I took her to the vet to be spayed last month, they thought she was very tiny. I ended up not spaying her, deciding to wait until she had grown some more. What would make a puppy of large parents be this small? She gets fed a sufficient amount (i.e., two to 2-1/2 cups dry with a small amount of wet food on it, two times a day, and two dog biscuits). I'm not sure of her exact height or weight because she's hard to measure/weigh.

A: from Judy Doniere, Toledobes, USA

Take her back to the Vet and weigh her there. The Techs will weigh her. Ask the Vet if she looks in good weight for her age. If she is underweight due to her size then she'll need more food. Will she eat more? A 6 mo. old puppy usually eats more per day but then it depends on how they look. They should be filled out. At 6 mo. she should be approximately 23-24 inches. Some are smaller and will grow more. A Vet can tell you all of this. Who
is her breeder? What do they think?

A: from  Marj Brooks, Manorie Dobermans, USA

Hello Lil Ray,

It would be hard to tell if your Doberman girl is too small without seeing her. however, they all grow differently and at different rates. They will grow, then hold a bit, then grow some more sort of like in spurts.if you can weigh her and measure her height, maybe we can help you. When I take my dog to the vet, I can weigh the dog. Can you weigh your girl at the vet. If you have scale at home, you can weigh yourself and then lift your dog and weigh her with you holding her and get an approximate figure. if you cannot pick her up and hold her, that is a good sign.

Anyway, it is good that you have chosen to wait to spay her until that she is older. That is best in the end for her if you can do this.

I am trying to think if there is anything on our articles pages that can tell us approximates weights and heights for 6 month old Dobermans. I will say. that she has lots of growing time left, about 3 to 4 months of time
left. It sounds as though you are feeding her enough. How does she look to you visually?

I hope that this helps. Don't be alarmed yet. Like I say some lines grow slower than others. Maybe your breeder can help you too with this question since the breeder would know the dogs that they breed.

I hope that this helps you some.
 


Q: from Ysella
Date: 24-Jan-08

Comments: Ear Cropping, Vets

Hello! I will be bringing my Dobie puppy home at the end of March and would like to get its ears cropped. My mother has a Doberman with cropped ears that fold inward like an ushanka Russian hat, so I'm hoping to find a good vet in order to avoid a similar result! This is probably a long shot, but I live in Austin Texas and wondered if you might be able to recommend a vet who does a good job w/ cropping ears? I'm willing to travel a few hours to Houston or elsewhere, if necessary. Thanks for your help!

A:
from Darlene Young, Darwin Dobermans, USA

Ysella:

Go to www.dpca.org and locate a local breeder or mentor in your area that can help you locate a vet.
 

A: from Judy Doniere, Toledobes, USA

Ysella,

We cannot recommend any Vet, sorry but that is not what we're here for. You can try to write or call the Secretary or Delegate from the Austin Doberman Club. Delegate Irina Sasu, 512-458-1818 or irhapsodydobes@earthlink.net.  Also, Secretary Becky Evers, 512-342-0679 gipsy2511@Yahoo.com. I'm sure they may be able to help you.

BTW, I'm sure that the crop on your mothers Dobe was fine, but the taping was not done correctly and that was the end result. Make sure someone shows you exactly how to tape ears.

Where is your breeder in all this? Does she not help you?

A: from Marj Brooks, Manorie Dobermans, USA

Hello Ysella,
We cannot refer particular veterinarians on this forum but you can look for reputable breeders in your area by going to www.DPCA.org website and click
onto Breeder Referral, then click onto Texas and look for breeders in your area and contact them for a referral of a veterinarian that will crop ears.
As for your Mother's Doberman, my guess would be that her Doberman's ears were not taped long enough to have them stand correctly straight up at 12
o'clock. You can figure on this taping your puppies cropped ears to train them to stand correctly for several weeks.

There are articles on our pages to help with the taping process. You may also find a breeder in your area that can help you learn how to tape the
ears too.

I hope that this helps you.
 


Q: from Angela
Date: 23-Jan-08

Comments: Going into heat

I have a 6-1/2 month old bitch and I want to be prepared for the first time she goes into heat. There are many things out on the market for when they go into heat, but what would be the best for a Doberman? Any suggestions would be great! Thanks!

A: from Marj Brooks, Manorie Dobermans, USA

Hello Angela,

You can buy panties for your dog to wear at www.sunnyhilldesigns.com for you girl to wear while she is in heat. To save monies, you can make them too by
using panties and cut a hole for the tail and use a pantie liner.

Your girl will keep naturally herself pretty clean too.

A: from Judy Doniere, Toledobes, USA

Just get a couple pair of panties for her. One she can wear and the other in the wash. Get a box of panty liners as well to put in the pants. Other
than that, I don't know of anything else you should do except keep her away from any intact males for 3 1/2 weeks.
 


Q: from Kristen
Date: 19-Jan-08

Comments: Conformation

Good Morning! I am trying to do some research to find out how many blue Dobermans have finished their AKC Championship. It seems that the west coast is more open to the blues and fawns as opposed to the mid-west where I currently reside. I appreciate any help, Thanks so much!

A: from Judy Doniere, Toledobes, USA

To my knowledge there is no "list" that would give you the count on how many blues have finished. Nor is there any of how many blacks, reds or fawns have finished.


There are reasons for dilute colors being on one side of the country or the other and that is when a dog that carries the dilution is living on that side and he produces some very good dogs regardless of color. As a guess, I would say the East coast would have more Blues that have finished since it was rare to breed to dogs on different coasts many years ago. The west coast had more Dominant blacks years ago so that would account for fewer blues. There was a breeder in the early 50's on the East coast that bred just blues. I forgot his name. Blues have been in the Doberman breed since they were founded. You could also go to DobeQuest and search for blues but it would be a very tedious job since you'd have to know their names first or their breeder.
 


Q: from V. Windust
Date: 17-Jan-08

Comments: Ear cropping

I do not wish to have my Doberman's ears cut, but at 7 months is there any possibility of taping his ears up to stand. I expect it's too late and the cartilage may have set already.

A: from Judy Bohnert, Equinox Dobermans, Canada

I doubt very much that the ears will stand at this or any age when they are not cropped and as the others state, it is far too late to crop him now.

A: from Darlene Young, Darwin Dobermans, USA

It is too late to crop ears at this age. They should be cropped between 7 and 10 weeks of age. A bit later only if the crop is so short it does not require taping.

A: from Judy Doniere, Toledobes, USA

Yes, it's way too late to have the ears on your pup cropped. We crop between 7 and 9 wks. of age. You also cannot get them to stand by taping either. Taping is done only after cropping. Just enjoy your puppy with his natural ears. He'll love you for it.
 


Q: from Chrissy
Date: 17-Jan-08

Comments: phenotype

What are the different phenotypes of Dobermans, not counting color?

A: from Darlene Young, Darwin Dobermans, USA

Phenotype describes the anatomical and psychological traits of a particular dog...it is usually a hereditary trait. I don't think they have been categorized into different types.

A: from Judy Doniere, Toledobes, USA

Just about everything you see is Phenotype, head, expression, bone & substance etc.
 


Q: from Kim
Date: 16-Jan-08

Comments: Handling

First of all I would like to say that I have owned and handled several different breeds and have gone to many of their respective websites but none are as user friendly and information packed as this one! Keep up the good work!

I have a 7 month old male who does not like to have his tail up. He is fine about having everything else handled, his teeth, feet, even his "sensitive male parts", but if my hand goes toward his tail he immediately clamps it down tight. To make matters worse, his tail was docked very short and it is hard to get a hold of. I have tried Michelle's suggestions in the article on tail up training and have seen no improvement over the last 4 months (I got him when he was 3 months old). He will now be showing in the puppy classes and I was wondering if it would be better to just leave it alone in the ring. I can forcefully pry his tail up after I set up his feet but I am afraid that his topline and overall outline could be negatively affected if he is trying to fight his tail position in the ring. When he free stacks he holds his tail at about a 45 degree angle. Any suggestions?

A: from Judy Doniere, Toledobes, USA

Kim,

Leave it alone. Especially if it's short it won't look bad if it's left alone. When he gaits, he'll put it up anyway. You can try just tickling it a few times but never ever try to forcefully pull it up. When he's a little older, you can clipper it underneath some and then a few days later just scratch it and they usually let you. Don't try getting it up more other than just scratching underneath. Once he's about 16 mo. and he is still holding it down, try squeezing just a little on his penis and it should go up. Have a breeder or handler show you how to do this first before you try it. My advice is to just leave it alone for now.
 


Q: from Meredith Pretzie
Date: 15-Jan-08

Comments: Conformation

I have a six month old male neutered AKC registered dobie pup, he is currently 27 inches at the withers and weighs 72 lbs. Is this an appropriate range for his age? His mom and dad were 82lbs and 90lbs respectively and both were a bit taller. His feet still look too big for him and while I know that does not determine his eventual size, I just wondered if he'd grow into them more. He's a wonderful healthy dog so far and we currently feed Hills Science Diet Large breed kibble, 5 and a half cups over 3 feedings per day. He gets 2 3V caps per day for a supplement and a puppy multi vitamin as well. Any other supplements? He does have some dandruff, but seems to be doing better since adding the fish oil caps. We purchased him from a great breeder in the Ocala Florida area and are very pleased with him. I also give him a bit of whole milk yogurt each day, he loves it. I've been researching different dry foods but it's very confusing trying to figure out which ones are best. I'd appreciate any suggestions on diet and supplements as well...Thanks so much.

A: from Darlene Young, Darwin Dobermans, USA

Meredith:

I would discuss his food intake, weight and height with your breeder to see if he is within what his line is at his age. Off hand I would not be feeding a six month puppy three times a day. I usually am feeding a puppy at that age twice a day and 2 to 2.5 cups in each meal depending on the weight and activity of the puppy. Again, see what your breeder says and a veterinarian should also be able to tell you if he's overweight or not by examining him.

Good luck with your puppy.

A: from Judy Doniere, Toledobes, USA

Hi Meredith,

I would say that you are feeding too much. A 6 mo. Old puppy should not weigh 72 lbs. I would suggest you take him to a good Vet in your area and they could tell you how to feed him. A show breeder in your area might have some ideas but not seeing the pup, I would say he’s getting too much food for his age. We are not Vets so it’s very difficult to advise you on what to do as far as feeding and adjust his weight for his age.
 


Q: from Jeff and Shawna Spears
Date: 13-Jan-08

Comments: Grading the Puppy, Pup is already mine and 6 months old

I have been trying to find out if my Doberman is worth more due to the "cowlick" that she has on the back of her neck. It actually goes 4 different directions. Up, Down, Up, and back Down. This is described from the shoulder up to the top of neck. She has perfect fawn colors and a great temperament. We would not think of ever giving her up, but we just wanted to know if anyone knew if this would make our daughter worth anymore? Thanks in advance and Happy New Year!!!
 


Q: from Sarah Murphy Case
Date: 13-Jan-08

Comments: nails trimmed!!!

Hello All,

Thank you very much for the info on nail trimming. After putting Rylan on a grooming table and following the advice a few of you gave, his nails are trimmed and are looking "show ready!" We are taking our time with the Dremel and it is not a fight. (Can't say that this is his favorite activity, but he tolerates it fairly well and enjoys the treat when we are done.)

So, for others who need nail trimming help, give the advice associated with my question on Jan 8, 2008.

Thank you.

A: from Marj Brooks, Manorie Dobermans, USA

Thank you Sarah for getting back to us and letting us know how you are doing with Rylan.

We are dedicated to help and it is rewarding to us that we can.

Thank you for the good news.

Keep up the good work.
 


Q: from Jerry
Date: 11-Jan-2008

Comments: Choosing A Breeder

I live in Little Rock AR, and I am trying to locate a breeder whom your club refers. I found a breeder, but they breed the albino dobe so I am having second thoughts about these breeders. could you please help me with finding a dobe, I am not looking for a show dog. I am just looking for a house dog.

A: from Darlene Young, Darwin Dobermans, USA

Jerry:

If you go to www.dpca.org and click on the breeder referral link you will find a list of breeders in your area. These should be all reputable breeders. DPCA does not support the breeding of albino dobermans.

A: from Marj Brooks, Manorie Dobermans, USA

Hello Jerry,

You are correct in your feelings about this breeder. I always say when you see a "red flag" trust your instincts.

We recently did send someone the names of breeders in Arkansas. There are some breeders that are DPCA members listed in the Breeders Referral that live in Arkansas.

Go to www.DPCA.org and click onto Breeders Referral and then click onto Arkansas. There are 3 or 4 breeders listed there. You may consider going to neighboring states too using the DPCA breeder referral and click onto those states as well. I cannot not give you specific names but I do know many of the breeders listed as reputable and they do not breed the white Doberman nor do they endorse them being bred.

I hope that this can help you.

Be patient. There will be a puppy for you from one of these breeders. Be sure to interview the breeder as they should interview you. I also don't buy off of the internet. Try to see and visit the breeder and their dogs too. Also their breeding stock (the sire and the dam of the litter) should tested for all of the inherent diseases that plague the Doberman.
 


Q: from Brandon
Date: 6-Jan-08

Comments: Choosing A Puppy

I'm planning on buying a Doberman pup and was wondering about their ears. I want one with its ears standing up. Do they clip their ears for this to happen?

A: from Marj Brooks, Manorie Dobermans, USA

Hello Brandon,

The ears are normally clipped or cropped and healed when you get your puppy. I reputable breeder most all have this much done before the puppy leaves their home at 9 to 12 weeks of age depending the age the ear crop was done.

It will take several weeks or even a few months of taping to train them to stand tall at 12 o'clock. Your breeder should be able to help you or refer you to a breeder near you that can help you. We also have several articles from breeders sharing their methods of taping the ears on our pages.

If you have your puppy and breeder picked out (I take it that you do) ask them this question.

If you haven't found your breeder and puppy yet, this question should be one of many in your interview of the breeder.

A: from Judy Doniere, Toledobes, USA

Dear Brandon,

If you purchase a puppy from a good breeder, they will have the ears cropped at about 7-9 wks. of age. This breeder should tell you all about taping the ears as they will not stand on their own. It's up to you to continue to tape the ears correctly (see some of our ear taping articles & pictures on this web site) or they will not stand properly or at all. Please make sure you purchase a puppy from a DPCA member who should be listed in the DPCA web site in your town.

A: from Darlene Young, Darwin Dobermans, USA

Brandon:

The ears are what we call cropped. This is done surgically as their natural ear is a drop ear like a hound ear. Once they are cropped they are wrapped frequently to train them to stand. This process takes anywhere from a few weeks to several months, depending on the puppy. It's not unusual to be still wrapping ears past 6 months of age. You should locate someone in your area that can help you with this. Perhaps the breeder you purchase the puppy from can help you do that.
 


Q: from Sarah Murphy Case
Date: 5-Jan-08

Comments: nail trimming

This DPCA website is excellent...Thank You....

Now for the question: Rylan is a 7 month old male Dobe; got him when he was 9 weeks, started puppy class the week I got him....We started with nail clipping right away. He seemed just fine with the process until about 2 months ago when he then decided that he will not tolerate nail clipping....Here is what I have tried: 1) read your article on nail clipping (tried most of those suggestions), 2)tried clipping while he sleeping (yes, that's not fair and it is sneaky...didn't work), 3) tried giving a treat each time I clipped one nail (doesn't work since he wiggles way too much in an effort to get the treat), 4) tried having my husband hold him comfortably in various positions and distracting him (as soon as he sees the clippers, he wiggles). Oh we could probably hold him down long enough to get the nails clipped, but what an awful experience for him and us and this will only teach him to hate nail clipping even more.

I will try the grooming table method, but knowing my young man, I can see this probably will not work. He gets really wiggly when I touch his nails and have the clippers in sight. I almost fear he will fall off the table.

So, when you have a dog that absolutely will not tolerate nail clipping/dremel tool, is mild sedation an option? The point being that since he will be shown in conformation, is this a good idea to do before every show? I really do not want to subject him to this and really need some other options to get these nails trimmed....

(I am also consulting a couple of professional groomers in our area, but would like a Dobe person's opinion.)

Thanks.

A: from Marj Brooks, Manorie Dobermans, USA

Hello Sarah,

I am wondering if there is any way that you can call me to see if I can talk you through this getting the nails done with your Doberman. I have had wirehaired Dachshunds and occasional Doberman resist this being done too. I was once a professional groomer. I can try writing this for you. I have a method. It will be slow possibly but it is on the premise that you don't argue (fight) with the dog because the you don't win an argument (fight) with a dog because they really don't want to fight with you.. So.......with this I can say. Very few dogs resent having their nails done. What they resent is the fight over the nail care. So don't fight them. Put your dog on a grooming table with a noose securely around the base of the head, and stack (stand) them comfortably. Then do the nails. If the dog fights, don't fight back. Stop and reposition them and start again. When they realize that you are not going to fight with them, they will usually settle down. (A severe structural weakness or injury is the most common exception to this rule).

I hope that this bit of information about dogs can help you.

Let me know.

A: from Judy Doniere, Toledobes, USA

Dear Sarah,

You are not alone with this problem in tail trimming. What happened was you must have gone to the "quick" which is very painful and that is why the puppy will not tolerate his nails being done. You said you have a Dremel tool with sander? You also said you have a grooming table. Do you have a grooming arm which you can keep the head and neck up (comfortably) so he can't move too much. Try taking one of his hind feet and put it on the edge of the table and let him move it so he knows he will fall off if he moves too much.

Here is what I do then. Sit on the table in front of him and lift one front foot. Take the sander and gently go over the first nail. Do it just a tiny bit so he doesn't pull back. He will if you keep at it. Then go to the next nail. I'd try the other foot next. Then go back to the first foot and do another nail. All the time saying "good boy" with a great tone. Then the opposite foot and toe. Each time praising him if he lets you barely touch his nails. What you want to do is let him know it's not going to hurt. You've got to lift his head high enough he isn't going to move much but make sure he isn't choking. Make sure the loop on the grooming bar is high up under his throat so he isn't able to push his head down and choke. Do this every day and each time try to take just a tiny bit off. You can see when you get to the white/pink on the nail. Stop at this as the next swipe with the grinder will draw blood and hurt him. This will put you back to stage one and he will continue to fight. Doing nails without the grooming table and arm will not be successful as he will constantly fight you by holding him or trying to. He'll usually win this fight.

A: from Darlene Young, Darwin Dobermans, USA

Sarah:

It sounds as though you need to seek help from someone. I've experienced the same problem with some dogs with their owners and when I take them, there is absolutely no problem because the dog knows they aren't going to get away with it. You could tether him to something with a leash on and do his nails when he can't move away but is not being smothered in the process, sometimes that works pretty well. Otherwise, definitely get some help. I would not rely on sedatives.
 


Q: from Dan Barrows
Date: 3-Jan-2008

Comments: Choosing A Puppy

We are currently looking for a reputable breeder in the Pittsburgh PA area and we are very concerned with purchasing a healthy well bed puppy. We would appreciate any advice with what to look for and what questions to ask the breeders.

A: from Darlene Young, Darwin Dobermans, USA

Dan:

If you go to www.dpca.org and locate the breeder referrals page you should be able to locate a breeder in the PA area that is a DPCA member. It doesn't always guarantee them as reputable breeders but all DPCA members do sign a Code of Ethics agreement when they become a member. Hopefully they are following that agreement and you should be able to locate a good one that way.
 


Q: from Kris
Date: 3-Jan-2008

Comments: Loud noise

Our new puppy will be coming home this spring, and one of my concerns is the best way to get her used to loud noises. There is a musician that lives in the home and a few times a day, the noise can be very loud, not damaging loud, but possibly startling. Should she be gradually exposed to it in small doses, or do we go about it as usual so as not to make a big deal over it?

Thanks.

A: from Darlene Young, Darwin Dobermans, USA

Kris:

You should just conduct your life as usual. If you see the puppy react badly you can then start out a little slower with it and build up.
 


Q: from Gina
Date: 1-January-2007

Comments: Cardiomandibu;ar Osteopathy

My 5 month old male pup was just diagnosed with Cardiomandibular Osteopathy. He had a 104.2 fever/shakes/enlarge jaw/bleeding of the gums/very irritable with sister. He is currently on Meticam and responding quite well. I am taking him in tomorrow to evaluate for Neutering at this age instead of 1 yr since research shows it may slow the progression of the disease. Does anyone have any experience or information regarding this disease?

Thanks.

A: from Marj Brooks, Manorie Dobermans, USA

Hello Gina,

I personally do not have any experience with this disease. You may want to try to type the disease, Canine Cardiomandibular Osteopathy into google and see what you can find out this way. You may find a lot of information and hopefully have your question answered. You can also ask your veterinarian this question if you haven't already.

Good luck with this and your Doberman boy with this.

A: from Judy Doniere, Toledobes, USA

Gina,

I'm sorry but I've had no experience with this problem. I would consult your Vet on matters concerning this condition. We do not respond to medical questions as it would not be what this Q&A session is about.

A: from Darlene Young, Darwin Dobermans, USA

No I do not have any experience with it. You might try searching the internet/google by typing in the name of the disease.
 


Q: from Susan
Date 1-January-2008

Comments: Playtime with other dogs

We have a 6 month old male Dobe (Cash) who has been with us since the age of 12 weeks. We also have a 4 year old female Boxer Josie) who had been with us since the age of 8 weeks. (The Boxer grew up with our previous Dobe, who passed away a year ago at age 13) Josie and Cash "play" quite "robustly"! It seems both are having fun. At first Josie, the Boxer, seemed too tolerant with the Dobes biting. I kept thinking that the Josie would put an end to his "robust playing", but they are still going at it. Although neither ever are injured, I am concerned that Cash (the Dobe) will become too aggressive. We do take him to the dog park occasionally and he "plays well with others", but I am still concerned. Your thoughts??

A: from Marj Brooks, Manorie Dobermans, USA

Hello Susan,

I agree with the comments that Judy made in her answer to you.

I had a Doberman that I took to the dog park a little over 8 years ago. I always feared that what Judy was talking about a dog attacking him and a dog fight happening too. Most people who use the dog park are not knowledgeable about dogs and their language, i.e. posturing and etcetera.
Often times once a dog is attacked by another dog, the end result could be that your Doberman could end up being "dog aggressive" from the negative experience. I feared this for my dog and quit taking him to dog parks and I haven't used dog parks for this reason and the reasons that Judy talks about.

You can take him to obedience classes and also to a gathering of dogs that is officiated by trainers. When he was younger, he could go to gatherings such as kindergarten training where dogs learn to get along and knowledgeable people are guiding the owners and the dogs. Maybe you can still find one of these sorts of situations for you and your dogs.

Both Boxers and Dobermans are exuberant and "rough" players. Judy gives good advice on how to handle this. I can add, that while the dogs are in the house, don't allow this rough play and insist that they be quiet well mannered dogs in the house just as you would children. As Judy says, you are the leader in/at the household.

If you plan top neuter your Doberman, talk to your vet about the proper age for his overall health and growth patterns which is older than 6 months.

Thank you for your question. I am sure the Q&A will help others.

PS: There are articles in the behavior section about Doberman temperment and "how to speak dog" which talks about dog body and verbal/vocal language.
http://www.dpca.org/BreedEd/SPEAKINGDOGGISH.htm

Look for other articles about temeperament and behavior too as well as some training articles on our pages as well to help you.

A: from Judy Doniere, Toledobes, USA

Dobes and other large breeds play very robustly. If they are allowed they don't know when to stop. I would let them play for a while and then go to their own corner and chill out. YOU are the alpha boss here. If you think it's getting too rough, just put a stop to it and separate them. If your Boxer hasn't put him in his place by now, she never will. He won't mean to hurt her but he can by just being too rough. As to the dog park, it is no place for a Dobe. I'm completely against it for a number of reasons. He may try and get rough with a dog who is older and he may get into a real fight and come out the loser or even win it. You will possibly get a lawsuit if he does damage to another dog. He can pick up all sorts of illnesses. Some dogs are not inoculated and even if your dog is, it may not be strong enough for him to be able to ward off some things such as Parvo, Kennel Cough or other things. I'd for sure not take him to a dog park.

I assume he's been neutered. He might slow down if he is, but it's not always the case however, a dog that isn't neutered can be hard to manage.
 


Q: from Janet
Date: 29-December-2007

Comments: Skin

Thank you very much for this web site. It has been a great source of information. My 4 year old Dobe has bumps on both of her shoulders. The vet says it is an allergic reaction to laying on hard surfaces. She always lays on soft surfaces so this did not make sense. The vet said they do not do anything unless a pustule forms. She does not have pustules, inflammation or itching. The vet said this was more common in boxers than Dobermans. Have you seen this? Do you have any recommendations? Thank you very much.

A: from Darlene Young, Darwin Dobermans, USA

Janet:

It's very difficult for us to tell you what a particular medical problem is without actually seeing it. It's best to take the advice of a good veterinarian. If you feel the one you have seen may not have the right answers you should seek another opinion. Sorry we could not be of more assistance.

A: from Marj Brooks, Manorie Dobermans, USA

Hello Janet,
The only suggestion that I can have is for you to get a second opinion. Maybe a veterinarian that specializes with the Skin. Maybe contacting your breeder or a breeder near you for a suggestion. of who that would be.

Thank you.
 


Q: from Kim Moreno
Date: 29-December-2007

Comments: Health/Conformation

I have a 6 month old black male with bumps on his lower neck just above the tan markings on his chest (they fall below his collar, so I don't think that is the cause). It started as what looked like a couple of pimples. I took him to the vet and she agreed they were pimples and said I could squeeze them but not to worry as they would clear up shortly. A month has past and though I have treated them as advised, I am getting concerned that my nice show quality boy now has a spreading bald patch surrounding the bumps that is about 2 inches wide and about 3 inches long. Have you had experience with this happening? Should I use the solution Marj recommended for staph bumps? Will his hair ever completely grow back? Should I even bother entering him in conformation shows or will his bald patch cause him to be dismissed?

A: from Darlene Young, Darwin Dobermans, USA

Kim:

You really should get another veternarian's opinion. I would ask them to test for parasites, etc. Like Judy said we really can't give medical advice but I would not enter him in any shows until you determine the cause and cure for his problem. His hair will grow back once the problem is resolved, however it will take a while for that to happen.

A: from Judy Doniere, Toledobes, USA

It sure sounds like Staph to me but then I'm not a Vet and we don't answer Veterinary questions. I'd sure get the opinion from another Vet as I've never heard of any Vet telling you to squeeze any kind of bumps. Please get to another Vet before it's too late and you might kill the hair follicles before long.

A: from Marj Brooks, Manorie Dobermans, USA

Hello Kim,

Does your Doberman wear a collar a lot of the time. I have found that sometimes they can be allergic to the metal or something with the collar. If he does, try taking the collar off.

I would hold off entering him now at the shows. He may not be dismissed but he could maybe not win because of this. You also want to confirm that it is not contagious too.

The hair should grow back once it is healed. It will probably take at least 8 weeks or so though.I hope that this helps.

Also, maybe another opinion from a vet too. Can your breeder help? Don't use my remedy either until you know what it is. No point in taking a risk.

Thank you and I hope this helps.
 


Q: from Bill
Date: 28-December-2007

Comments: I have a question about handling from the last show I entered my Dobie in. The judge, as he was handing me a second-place ribbon, said, "He's a very handsome boy, but he need's a little more training." My dog wasn't unruly or anything. He just broke his stance and turned to look at the judge when he got behind him. He also broke out of his gait once when going around the ring, and I had to slow him down.

I got the impression from the way the judge said it that that was why my boy didn't get first place. I and my dog are not very experienced, but I thought they would be judging the dog to the standard and not so much to how well I had trained him.

So my question is, what does a judge look for as far as how the dog behaves in the ring?

A: from Marj Brooks, Manorie Dobermans, USA

Hello Bill,

Darlene and Judy can probably answer your question better than I because they are judges.

I am a handler and one of my thoughts is that the judge was trying to give to you encouragement and not to give up just because you were getting second. Translation could be, "your puppy is a very nice puppy but today he will be second and because of his behavior I couldn't evaluate him fully." Take the judges advice and continue to learn and train your Doberman.

There are articles on our pages to help you.

Also, look for handling training classes in your area. Also, maybe you can find a mentor to help you learn. There are also books and videos on the market for handling education.

I hope that this can help you. It sounds to me that the judge thought that your puppy was promising.

A: from Darlene Young, Darwin Dobermans, USA

Bill:

The issue is that the judge is also judging the dogs temperament based on the standard. The judge can only judge them for the 2 minutes they have in the ring. It's very important that you and the dog be ready for each phase of examination including standing posed for examination by the judge. A lot of times it only takes a split second to cause a decision to be made in one way or the other by a judge. Advice, keep training, you'll get there with lots of practice.

A: from Judy Doniere, Toledobes, USA

Bill,

There are many things a Judge looks for. By him telling you he needs more training might have meant he liked him a lot or as much as the dog that beat you but the other one was better trained. There is more to showing a dog than JUST the matter of how he meets the standard. It isn't called a Dog Show for nothing. The dog should be well trained and have the showmanship required to make his features outstanding. You said you are new to showing. If you were new to selling cars or building houses, you wouldn't do as well as someone who has been doing those things for many or more years than you, so its the same with showing. This is one reason some hire Professional handlers. The handlers have shown for years and know how to make a dog look his best and so owners hire them to get a jump start at showing. You should be going to training classes not just for your dog but for you to show your dog better. I know, for I started out showing my own dogs and got beat by more experienced people even though I thought my dog was better than the other dogs that beat me. It was because I was inexperienced and didn't know how to make mine look as good as she could look. Hang in there and I would imagine the judge really liked your dog but it was experience that beat you. Study, study, study all the things the Pro's and those who have been showing for years are doing and then you might have a more even chance to beat them. Of course your dog should also be a good one or better than their.
 


Q: from Larry Moline
Date: 26-December-2007

Comments: Choosing A Breeder

I am looking for a breeder in the Hot Springs/Little Rock Arizona area for the purpose of purchasing a puppy in the coming months for a pet with show quality characteristics.

A: from Marj Brooks, Manorie Dobermans, USA

Hello Larry,
Please go to www.DPCA.org and click onto Breeder Referral and then the state that you want. There are 3 very good and reputable breeders listed on this page for Arkansas.
http://dpca.org/BreedRef/index_html.htm#Arkansas
You scan check Texas too and the other surrounding states for someone that also may close to you.

A: from Darlene Young, Darwin Doberans, USA

You can go to www.dpca.org and locate a breeder from the on line breeders directory.

A: from Judy Doniere, Toledobes, USA

Dear Larry,

I'm sorry but this is not what the Q & A's are on this page. If you go to www.DPCA.ORG you will find a list of members in every State.
 


Q: from Joshua Ransom
Date: 21-December-2007

Comments: Handling

Hi,

I am relatively new to the conformation ring and have a question concerning whether or not it is acceptable to use a ball or other small toy as bait for a dog instead of food. I do realize that a small piece of bait is much more professional in appearance than holding or tossing a ball around in your hand, but the intensity i get from my dog (two years old) w/a toy is much greater than that of food, although he will bait for food. I'd be interested to know your opinions as long time exhibitors and judges on the acceptance of using a toy on a dog that isn't a puppy. Thanks!

A: from Judy Doniere, Toledobes, USA

Hi Joshua,

Some, especially Boxer exhibitors, do use a ball or toy but as a judge myself I have to tell you that if it interferes with the other dogs, it's not good. If you have a squeaker or clicker, I'd suggest not using it in the ring. It causes the dog in front of you to constantly turn around to see what the noise is. A ball can be used but remember, you have to have one the size that you can instantly put in your pocket when it comes time for you to set up your dog. Many people think that a Judge can give you two minutes per dog. That isn't true. You have less than 60 seconds to set up and make your dog look good. If you then have to fiddle around trying to get a ball out of your pocket or put it in, you may have used up valuable time.

I'm not saying not to use a toy, but if you do, practice setting the dog up quickly and getting it out of your pocket. You can't leave it in your hand very easily while setting up your dog. No noise makers, please.

A: from Darlene Young, Darwin Dobermans, USA

Toys are acceptable as long as they are not too l