© Jeanne 2001
While showing what would become my first owner-handled champion, under Peggy Adamson, a comment she made to me as she handed me the ribbon changed my attitude in regard to size from an observer to a student. Peggy put her hand on my arm, smiled and simply said "You know, your dog is really lovely ... but just a little too tall for me". She was correct, of course, as he was 28-3/4-inches and since I respected her so much, that simple comment made me want to find out why it mattered to her.
As years went by there were other dogs and a few (very few!) litters and I was pleased to manage to stay with standard-sized animals. It was particularly satisfying to finish a 25-inch bitch, in twenty shows from first point to last, myself and to have a 25-3/4-inch bitch that I bred and co-owned, achieve an Award Of Merit at our National in her only outing as a Special.
I bring this anecdotal history to paper so the reader can understand that I have owned over-sized animals and animals well within the Standard and finished both and felt them both worthy of finishing. I can well appreciate the commitment of a breeder and owner bringing a quality Doberman Pinscher to the point where he is evaluated in the ring as show and breeding stock. I have written this article solely with a desire to sharpen awareness and stimulate a discussion of our breeders, owners and judges, regarding the element of proper size in the Doberman and how to assess it from several perspectives.
With that said, I also must comment that at this time I am observing a larger percentage of bitches being exhibited that are well over standard size. With most of our male dogs over standard or at the top of our Standard, the trend of larger bitches could possibly defeat our natural system of checks and balances within our breed for size when breeding. When one breeds an oversize dog to an oversize bitch, after all, what size will the majority of the puppies be at maturity and what are the consequences of those breeding decisions be on the future gene pool?
I have drawn on the expertise of those known to us, as well as some experts outside our breed, for this article. I was encouraged by the consensus of opinion generally being with my own.
With all of this in mind, here are some of the 'Whys Of Standard Size'.
From the Standard for the Doberman Pinscher:
'Size, Proportion, Substance - Height at withers: Dogs 26 to 28 inches, ideal about 27-1/2 inches; Bitches 24 to 26 inches, ideal about 25-1/2 inches The height measured vertically from the ground to the highest point of the withers, equalling the length measured horizontally from the forechest to the rear projection of the upper thigh. Length of head, neck and legs in proportion to length and depth of body.'
© Jeanne 2001
To better understand the present we must review the past. For brevity, some highlights follow in a 'time machine'!
On August 27, 1899, the National Doberman Pinscher Club was organized in Apolda, Germany and the first Standard of the breed was issued. In 1900 the Doberman was recognized as a breed in Germany. In 1908, the first Doberman was registered in the United States. The first American Champion was Ch. Doberman Hertha in 1912. By 1920 there was a Doberman entry at Westminster and by 1923 the Westminster Doberman entry was 46. Early Doberman people in the U.S. spared no expense and important dogs and bitches were imported from Germany and Holland. Further proof of their dedication was that they brought German experts over to judge as well. Philipp Gruenig, one of the greatest historians of our breed, judged Dobermans at the March, 1927 show of the Long Island Kennel Club and in a statement in the AKC Gazette said "The correct size of the male is 25-1/2 to 27 inches. The bitches may be smaller. Statements in some American dog magazines that the maximum height of a Doberman is 25-1/2 inches, I think they may be wrong. The tendency for some years has been toward the larger dog. On the other hand, this should not be carried to excess". (2) To step back in time just a bit, we see Gruenig's critiques were prefaced by the 1925 Standard which finally mentioned ideal size and included under faults 'Especially faulty...too low standing or distinct high-legged', the first cautionary comment regarding size. With the breed in such rapid evolution, type was stabilizing, so size was the next concern ... or was it the beginning of a controversy? as we can see by the photos (and note the dates) the Doberman changed and grew larger at an amazing rate! By examining the chart 'Size Limitations In The Dobe Standards Throughout The History Of The Breed' (3) one can easily see the drama unfolding. The only material change that took place between the years of 1899 and 1925 (in the Standards), was an increased shoulder height for dogs from a minimum of 21.6 inches to a maximum of 23.6 inches, corresponding with a maximum of 18.8 inches to 21.6 inches for bitches. The breed grew taller which necessitated a concession as to shoulder height. Controversies over the maximum shoulder heights extended over a number of years. The conservatives felt that inasmuch as the Doberman Pinscher belonged to the medium-sized breeds, it would be dangerous to permit such heights as 27 inches for dogs and 25 inches for bitches respectively, because it might easily happen over the course of time that the breed would not cease growing -- by continuous use of tall animals -- and consequently the Doberman would lose the main essentials of a medium-sized dog.
|SIZE LIMITATIONS IN THE DOBE STANDARDS THROUGHOUT THE HISTORY OF THE BREED|
compiled by Thomas Tyler Skrentny, MD
|1899||Germany & America||21.6" - 23.6"*||18.8" - 21.6"||none given|
|1920||Germany & America||22.8" - 25.6"||21.6" - 23.6"||none given|
|1925||Germany & America||23.8" - 26.2"||22.3" - 24.2+"||25"||23.1"|
|1935||Germany & America||24" - 27"||23" - 25"||25.6"||24.4"|
|1948||America||26" - 28"||24" - 26"||27"||25.5"|
|1958||America||26" - 28"||24" - 2"||27.5"||25.5"|
*This is also given as (21.6" to 25.6") in the Doberman Pinscher in America by Schmidt. In the third edition of the Doberman Pinscher by Schmidt (21.6" to 23.6") is given and is probably correct since both maximum and minimum were changed with each new standard on all other occasions. 25.6" in 1899 would have been unchanged in 1920, which is unlikely.
© Jeanne 2001
The radicals took the opposite stand. They claimed that so long as the Doberman developed into a larger dog, it would be unfair to exclude otherwise outstanding specimens on account of narrow height limitations. The latter group won its argument! William Sidney Schmidt - 1926 (4)
So it became clear that two of our earliest experts, both of whom were a great influence on America's earliest Doberman owners and breeders, were sharply divided on the issue of size! There are some comments in both Gruenig's and Schmidt's books that some of the earliest imports to the United States, although of high quality, were available only because of their being oversized! This is further substantiated by the article 'What Is Inherited' by Eleanor Carpenter (Jerry Run - breeder of Demetrius' dam) (5) who provided a specific example of Cherloc v Rauhfelsen, sire of Ch. Jessy v.d. Sonnenhoehe (1934), being sold specifically because he was 28". Jessy was surely the most important dam of her time with tremendous influence on the Dobermans of the United States. At a DPCA National sometime during the 1940's the membership was polled at the annual meeting and 80% had dogs related to Jessy. She produced Ch. Ferry v Raulfelsen , the first Doberman to go Best In Show at Westminster (1939), just three weeks after his arrival from Germany. While making her home in America, Jessy produced Ch. Favoriet v Franzhof and Ch. Alcor v Milsdod, two of the seven sires researched by Peggy Adamson to be the basis of nearly all significant breeding in American Dobermans. World War II solidified this base of important stud dogs since no more imports were possible.
The earliest if these sires, Ch Westphalia's Rameses, was whelped in 1938. Ch. Domossi of Marienland and Ch. Westphalia's Uranus in 1939. In 1941, Ch. Emporer of Marienland, Ch. Favoriet v Franzhof, Ch. Alcor v Milsdod and lastly Ch. Dictator v Glenhugel, were whelped. An interesting point made by Peggy in her article 'Illena And The Seven Sires' (6) (Illena being the notable dam Ch. Dow's Illena of Marienland) is that Illena and the youngest four of the Seven Sires were sired by the older three, except for Dictator who was Domossi's younger full brother. To quote from the article; 'Five of the Seven Sires were between 27-1/2" and 28" in height, Rameses being slightly over 28" and Domossi slightly under 27".' Peggy goes on to say; 'During the ten years prior to August, 1951, a total of 416 Dobermans completed their championships in the United States. One half of these were descendants in the first, second or third generation of the Seven Sires. One third of the total number were their own sons and daughters (139), 62 were grandchildren and 7 were great-grandchildren. (6)
So, history class is over and we now understand that by looking at the earliest history of the breed we see that the Doberman Pinscher has the innate ability to get taller rapidly unless held in check by selective breeding. We also see that some of the early Dobermans that were imported into America were oversized and most of the Seven Sires, a major part of our early gene pool, were near or at the top of the Standard. By communicating with some of the most respected elders in our breed I learned that there were drastically oversized dogs finished and oversized Dobermans were often winning over properly sized ones in every era.
Sometimes this really caused an uproar; I've included a couple of letters below, one of which was very controversial in its day. In the last twenty-five years or so size discussions have become fewer and with the influx of many new judges (more every month) and many new people owning, exhibiting and breeding Dobermans without the benefit of mentors, size is not the issue it should be.
From the various reports we have received the Detroit Show seems to have been a huge success . . . I quote a letter from one of the spectators . . .
"The outstanding thing about the Detroit Show this year was the general quality of the Dobermans exhibited. It was said by many people present at both shows that the quality in the Specials class at the Doberman's Sportsman's Club Show far excelled that of Westminster. Much comment at the ringside was that the average height of the dogs was at least an inch less than at Westminster and it still approached the top of the Standard. Lack of quality is not necessarily the consequence of breeding large dogs. The difficulty lies in the fact that some breeders prefer size to quality."
"Open bitches was one of outstanding quality throughout. The class was one of the best four bitches I have seen at any one show (exclusive of Specials Class) in two years.
Specials Class showed true fighting spirit. Every dog, without exception, required lots of room. Mr. Arthur O. Tischer did a very fine job of judging."
This last sentence the editor can subscribe to for I have seen Arthur Tischer judge quite a few shows and turn in a good job each time. He has and deserves a reputation for 'placing them as he sees them'.
|There has recently been a controversy over the question of size. There are those who believe that the standard was written to be a guide to judges when judging Dobes. There are those who think the Standard was written to be a guide to breeders in selecting an ideal of perfection. There are those who believe the Standard was written to satisfy the requirements of the American Kennel Club. Some believe that 28 inches can be stretched to 31. Some imagine that a 95 pound Dobe is capable of running!! Everyone, however, is in agreement on one point. That is, that a bitch 23 inches high, never shall, never could, win Best of Breed at a five point show. Some think perhaps she should win, but everyone who is not kidding himself knows that no such thing will happen.|
K. E. Smith
I had this article in mind for quite a long time when I read the following which certainly expresses why one would question the importance of size: "It boils down to a question that has been around for many years -- do you breed in order to produce a better, more nearly perfect dog according to the Breed Standard and history and function of the breed -- or to produce dogs that will win at dog shows? Everyone says they want to breed 'better' dogs -- 'better' for what purpose? Is winning a lot of colorful ribbons really proof that the exhibit is, truly, closest to the ideal of the breed? Too often I have heard people state that they would forgive faults in construction as long as the dog had the 'attitude' that would make it a winner. This includes breeders, exhibitors and judges -- including some breeder judges. (7)
So why are we still struggling with size? Or are we bothering? One theory that may be worth considering is that from the time of the Seven Sires there were several influential and astute breeders who created carefully crafted pedigrees that resulted in animals that 'bred true' to various attributes predictably. With these 'gold standard' breeders one could bring an animal to their line to improve certain virtues.
Although it is possible that size will always be considered a 'renegade factor' and genetically unpredictable, size was certainly more predictable by breeding to or from the animals of these accomplished breeders. Today, very few bloodlines remain tightly line bred for generations and many breeders do not have the background information to choose for proper size when evaluating a litter. By the time a promising puppy is ready for the ring size is no longer relevant to the owner exhibiting the dog. There is no disqualification for size in Dobermans, promoted as a good idea in the past and nearly made mandatory; in fact, size discussions outside of seminars, are rare. With no disqualification, dogs and bitches, with heights at the top of the Standard and over, are the norm for Dobermans of today, with many well over. The lower half of the standard height in Dobermans are not commonly seen in the ring. With this complacency firmly in place many judges today do not see the additional virtue of a correctly sized Doberman and are often confused by them. The unfortunate part is that so many of the wrong kind of examples are in the ring and winning, that judges (and exhibitors) begin to see those as being correct -- and begin to look for them and reward them. This has a devastating effect on the breed as a whole (at least to 'purists' -- many others probably accept it as 'progress'). I expect that this is true in many other breeds as well. Popularity in the show ring seems to have that effect. (8)
It may be interesting to contemplate that without careful attention to size, primary breeding motivation today may just be to perpetuate characteristics necessary for success in the conformation ring, irregardless of what they were historically created to do. Size is a functional attribute; think of the visual contrast in the ability of the Great Dane and the Doberman to reach a gallop quickly and corner efficiently and the necessity of this ability to be in an agile, medium-sized dog used for agility, fly ball, advanced obedience and other working sports, including service dogs. All of us are just as pleased if a Dobe that carries our name gains an agility title or an obedience title, so by making size an important consideration when making those lengthy pre-breeding evaluations, we could theoretically improve our chances of our dogs being in easier reach of multiple titles ... a Dobe for all reasons!
The form versus function adage should still ring true in the mindset of the serious Doberman breeder, owner and our most learned of judges; the type versus soundness checklist debate is studied and discussed in every judging seminar; but do judges and breeders recognize breed evolution (a positive and necessary process) versus breed exaggeration? The all too human desire to be accepted can be especially prevalent in judging and we know it is easy for judges to follow the winning dogs today by simply opening their mailbox at home and viewing the masses of dog magazines automatically sent to them. It can be difficult to stick to the ideology of proportion and size standards if a judge is not sure they are any longer in 'vogue' and everyone knows a 'renegade' judge doesn't judge often! Does a typical, dare I say 'average' judge, go into a ring today determined to find, in 2-1/2 minutes, the most correct animal according to our Standard? Or does he 'go with the flow', so to speak, and judge amongst the most prevalent type brought before him, ignoring those that may appear 'out of type'? A scenario frequently witnessed is that of a correctly sized dog with good parts and kinetic soundness standing in a sea of oversized Dobermans who doesn't get recognized for his additional virtues. I think few would argue that this scenario is now even more frequent in bitches.
Yet we do continue to produce dogs that amass amazing records and provide a strong impact on the awareness of the conformation community at large; it is wonderful and gratifying, that in the Top 20 Working Dogs, year after year, multiple Dobermans are listed and the top Working Dog of all was a Doberman, etc., etc. I sincerely congratulate each and every one ... in some aspects you set the bar for achievement! I would be remiss if I did not also say, with emphasis, that some of our most famous were the most correct!
But, as I said earlier, how do we recognize the difference between breed evolution and breed exaggeration? Being the quintessential American show dog (or at least near the top) we are, in general, amongst the best handled, conditioned and promoted breed anywhere. Ambitious owners and ambitious handlers are making such an impact ... but are our Dobermans 'morphing' into a beautiful 'Generic Show Dog'? Did you know Dobermans are always named as one of the prototypes of the outline invading many breeds? To paraphrase a general description of the 'Generic American Show Dog'; oversized animals with the generic outline that wins today ... upright animals with sweeping side gait (and handlers going faster to match it), too short bodies (yes, its possible in a square breed), unbalanced angulation front to rear with the resultant sloping topline and too much length hip to hock completing the profile, and of course with a lot of daylight underneath. Extreme example? Certainly. Possible? Definitely!
But I digress to make a point ... how do we keep progressive yet remain cognizant of our breed's purpose and origin? Surely a topic for discussion, but part of the answer is to strive to keep the Doberman Pinscher a medium-sized dog through the only means available that has any influence ... good breeding decisions and good judging decisions.
The purpose of this article was to encourage self education and discussion of the various aspects that influence size. I bring to this writing twenty-six years of serious study and observation ... in and out of the ring and the whelping box. During these years I was privileged to have the opportunity to question some of our past and present Doberman experts and the one thing I constantly remind myself of is that one can never learn enough! With that in mind, I compiled a questionnaire that I sent to expert judges of our great breed that are particularly cognizant of proper size. The following are the questions and their replies and I want to express my appreciation to George Rood, Anthony DiNardo, Bill Garnett and Frank Grover for their kind participation.
1. Do you feel there are sufficient educational materials available to educate new judges on correct size and how to evaluate it?
2. Do you have techniques or helpful tips on how to assess size while judging?
3. Do you find that regional type exists in respect to size?
4. Overall, do you observe that there are more oversized dogs or bitches being exhibited? Is oversize more prevalent now?
Some of the beautiful bitches being shown and winning exceed 26 inches by from one to two inches and more. Twenty-eight inch bitches win in major competitions and sometimes Best In Shows. This writer is under the impression that we are showing and winning with more over-height bitches than males.
5. Which do you consider more serious, an oversize dog or bitch? Why?
As far as the breeder is concerned, having a beautiful bitch that is substantially oversized is more serious for it is hard to locate correct sized males to use with such bitches.
As far as the genetic influence is concerned, it is hard to say. The traditional size control from the German breeders was to keep the bitches within the height limits. Breeders in other European countries bred larger bitches but never to large males. Geneticists with whom I have made inquiries have indicated that height and size are very complex studies but given little guidance. One very influential man in the breed objected to stress on size. It was his assertion that it would take care of itself. Unfortunately, it hasn't.
6. Please discuss the importance of a judge rewarding standard size.
If by standard size you mean a dog within the size the Standard states for the breed but not the ideal, such a dog should be preferred in the evaluation system over one that is not ideal and outside the Standard's limits.
Judges who are able to estimate heights in this breed accurately never put up a Doberman because it is oversize nor penalize one excessively that is under the ideal but within the height range.
7. In many All Breed magazines there are discussions about the 'Generic American Show Dog'; the Doberman is often mentioned in these articles. Do oversize Dobermans contribute to this image and if so, are more oversize Dobermans successful because this image is becoming acceptable?
8. Any comments you would like to make?
I wish to thank Colby Homer for allowing me to express my opinions in this article.
Its no question that size is one of the more important considerations when one evaluates a Doberman. It sets up, if you will, the whole picture, image or outline. It typecasts the Doberman right from the get go. The Doberman is a medium size dog. And for those that say that's a relative term, the Standard takes care of that argument by later on setting exacting parameters. Males: 26 to 28 inches with 27-1/2 being ideal. Bitches: 24 to 26 inches with 25-1/2 being ideal.
However, there are other factors creeping into the equation that are creating problems that we judges seem to be overlooking. Lack of balance, exaggeration, length, sickle hocks, lack of under jaw, small teeth, soft bodies and lastly ... improper attitudes. I'll leave these observations for discussion another day. But on your own ... think about them and try to understand why these attributes are not standard conforming or desirable.
At this point I am going to describe the Doberman in only twenty-seven words. It's not brain surgery, rocket science or the Battle of Britain. With our shotgun approach to evaluating Dobermans ... we're making mountains out of mole hills. Find me two Dobermans with the following attributes and you can break the tie with any one of your personal preferences.
"The DOBERMAN PINSCHER is a square, medium size companion dog of balanced proportions, noble in its carriage, courageous by nature and SOUND of mind, body and joints".
Two major objections to the oversized Doberman Pinschers have been well documented. First, many homes are too small to keep such large sized dogs as house dogs. The Doberman Pinscher began as a small medium. The Standard now recognizes large medium as the correct size. Any larger are difficult for homes with small yards and for most apartments. The role of dogs with the elderly has gained a great deal of favourable attention and the deep devotion that marks Doberman Pinschers cannot be recommended to them if the dogs are too large.
Second, life span in dogs is inversely related to size: the larger the dog, the shorter the life span. By breeding for huge as some did and do, the life expectancy is shortened by three to four years.
Twice the DPCA membership voted to disqualify oversize but the proposals were never formulated into amendments to the Standard.
In recent years in this country much breeding of Dobermans is done by professional handlers who handle Dobermans in the show ring. Most are intelligent, well-meaning and helpful as well as devoted to the breed. Obtaining the cooperation of these handlers in preparing educational materials for new judges could do a great deal to speed the use of the materials by the judges and perhaps speed the application of the Standard in regard to size in breeding programs as well.
From 'Learning To Judge The American Doberman Pinscher'
'Size: This is a generalized term referring to a combination of height and bulk. The Standard calls for a medium size and specifies height limitations. To apply this, you need a clear mental picture of the ideal bulk in relation to height. The taller the dog the more bulk is required. Height estimation requires considerable skill. For some reason a Doberman's height challenges the ability of most persons to estimate accurately. Males at the top of the Standard often appear taller than they are, especially if they carry themselves proudly with head erect. Smaller males often look 'too small' though they are well with the Standard's prescribed limits.
This deceiving appearance applies even more strongly in bitches. You need to practice until you can estimate height of a Doberman within a 1/4 of an inch. You also need to establish devices or ways to check your estimations while in the ring. One check on height estimation is to use your judging table. Bring your dogs near it and use the table to figure withers height. Normally a table is about 29-1/2 or 30 inches. You may wish to check the height of a table in your ring before beginning judging.
You also need a system of penalties for deviations on size. In the show ring almost never do you see a mature Doberman that is not tall enough to be 'within' the standard but often we have dogs and bitches that exceed the upper limits of the Standard. You need to work out a system of penalties which fits the Standard and is equitable; then it is necessary to work hard to internalize your system so your eye accepts it as the basis for decisions.
Remember, the best Dobermans must appear to be of medium size and should be within certain height specifications. Size is a fundamental breed characteristic.' (9)
We have looked at avenues for discussion regarding history of size, judging awareness of proper size, etc., but little has been said of the all important breeder and the thought processes that ultimately produce the animal that is in the ring! It seems like the breeder has taken a backstage role in the Doberman world of today, eclipsed by the glamour of today's ring and its participants. With this general lack of attention from the fancy, serious, standard-conscious breeders can sometimes be considered conservative when not following current trends in breeding decisions. Conservatism, some say, can lead to stagnation and we want our breed to evolve and improve, structurally and genetically. Others point out that a slow and steady course of improvement over time is the hallmark of a great breeder. So, ideally, we walk the tightrope of working for reed evolution and trying to avoid breed exaggeration while maintaining and awareness and appreciation of the traditional body of knowledge from experienced breeders that brought us to this point along with the historical precepts that stem from our Standard. When a breeder takers these ideals to heart he has breed integrity paramount in his plans because, after all, despite his 'quieter' role, the breeder is the conscience and heart of our breed!
With the philosophical role a breeder must take firmly fixed in his mind, the practical evaluations are next; conformation (assemblage) and morphology (form and structure) being our main interests for this article. This evaluation provides the sum of the dogs' quality and some visual clues for their possible genetic transmission in planning breedings. The morphology of an animal, under which most phenotypic descriptions reside, such as profile, proportion, balance and movement are polygenic traits.
Polygenic traits are quite variable within a breed. With Dobermans historically determined that as a breed they get larger unless held in check by careful and determined breeders, its little wonder that size discussions do not occur with regularity, there is no hard and fast answer on how to maintain it within our breed! But, to once again underline the importance of mentors, the experienced breeder is better able to attempt to maintain consistency with his intuition and prior knowledge. However, Mother Nature always makes her presence known! The polygenic nature of size is why there might be one bigger bitch in a litter or why breeding an oversize animal to a standard-sized one can produce a mix of sizes but the size those individuals will produce is unsure. The only way to control size is to pay attention and set goals over generations to reduce the numbers of variables of size within a given pedigree so that more consistency is available. The importance of staying near our standards of size is not just tradition (although it is of course); by staying medium we lessen our other struggles with even more difficult aspects of ideal structure. Consider our shoulder angle. Everyone is quick to covet the elusive 90-degree shoulder angle but are we handicapping our goal of 90-degrees by not paying enough attention to proper size? In researching this article I found a theory promoted in several breeds regarding shoulder angle in relation to height. This may be an aspect that has not been considered enough in Dobermans and one article in particular bears repeating. The illustrations emphasize that the Standard is not arbitrary at all, and in fact, is what can keep us from exaggeration. Look with new eyes at photos and at ringside and I am certain you will see examples of this in great numbers!
"At both ends, the over-standard and the under-standard dog, the Doberman loses power and the athletic equipment designed to enable him to function in the capacity for which he was designed and bred. So, when we are talking about a breed with only a 3-inch variation, we are still getting plenty of play and depending upon how much angulation and bone we place on our animals, we find that there is quite a difference between a heavy-boned, long-bodied 28-inch male with no wither compared to the light-boned, very short-bodied, high-stationed 28-inch dog. The first dog is incredibly huge compared to the second dog. Are either of them incorrect? Of course not! Therefore, who is to say which is the more correct dog: they are well within our standards.
However, in the matter of angulation, if we take the so-called 90-degree front end and we shorten the shoulder blade and upper arm; take that 90-degree angle and open it out so that it forms at 140-degrees, we now have the very classic straight front. We have taken an inch off each bone and opened the angle out so that what we have lost by decreasing the length of the arm is compensated for by opening the angle. We end up with a dog that, even though he is two inches shorter in actual length of bone in his front assembly, is probably going to be close to an inch, possibly even two inches, taller with the 140-degree front angulation than our original fellow with a 90-degree front end, but this is one area that offers an explanation of fronts as they relate to height". (10)
One aspect not mentioned may well be a valid one to discuss and explore: the possibility of larger size affecting longevity as it does in other breeds.
Within this article I have tried to be as comprehensive as is possible in a discussion of the 'Whys Of Standard Size' . I thank all who contributed. All the best to you and your Dobermans!
|CROSS-SECTION OF INFLUENTIAL SIRE HEIGHTS|
(Most of us will have at least one of the following dogs in today's pedigrees. Stud Dogs of today should also advertise height!)
Int. Ch. Borong The Warlock, CD
|Ch. Brown's Eric||28-1/2"|
|Ch. Steb's Top Skipper||28-1/2"|
|Ch. Damasyn The Solitaire, CD||27-3/4"|
|Ch Singenwald's Prince Kuhio||27-3/4"|
|Ch. Gra-Lemor Demetrius v.d. Victor||29"|
|Ch. Dictator von Glenhugel||27-1/2"|
|Ch. Alnwick's Black Fury Bismarck, CD||28-1/2"|
|Ch. Tarrado's Flair||27-1/2"|
|Ch. Edelhall Gigolo Of Amulet||27-1/2"|
|Ch. Rancho Dobe's Storm||28"|
|Ch. Brunswig's Cryptonite||28"|
|Bibliography and Recommended Reading|
|# 1||Walker, Joanna||The New Doberman Pinscher||Howell Books||1977|
|# 2||Flashback||Doberman Pinscher News & Views||July 1962|
|# 3||(Chart)||Doberman Pinscher News & Views - Size Limitations In The Dobe Standards Throughout The History Of The Breed||Screntney, MD, Thomas||Dec. 1958|
|# 4||Schmidt, William Sidney||The Doberman Pinscher||Judy Publishing Co||3rd Edition - 1939|
|# 5||Carpenter, Eleanor (article)||What Is Inherited||DPCA Educational Set & DPC of Chicagoland catalogue||1957|
|# 6||Walker, Joanna||Adamson, Peggy (article) - Illena & The Seven Sires from The New Doberman Pinscher||Howell Books||1977|
|# 7||Beauchamp, Richard G. (column)||Success In Show Dogs - Dogs In Review (magazine)||Bo Bengtson, Editor||Feb. 2000|
|# 8||Beauchamp, Richard G. (column)||Success In Show Dogs - Dogs In Review (magazine)||Bo Bengtson, Editor||Feb. 2000|
|# 9||Adamson, Peggy, Doniere, Pat, Grover, Frank et al||Learning To Judge The American Doberman Pinscher - Doberman Quarterly (booklet)||Published by Ann Lanier, Used with permission of Frank Grover||1994|
|#10||Youngblood, Jaima (article)||Function Of The Doberman Pinscher - Top Dobe (magazine)||Ray Carlisle, Editor||Jan-Feb 1976|
|#11||(Photos) Schmidt, William Sidney||The Doberman Pinscher||Judy Publishing Co.||1935 (Plate #1)|